Where I get concerned is when the weight is concentrated and near the outside walls.Reply.Leslie FayHey Paul! We plan to put them along the wall in our living room. However, I never messed with load bearing walls and cant offer any specific suggestions. When you buy a older mobile home on leased land you are REALLY locked in. They're inset on the floor with dado cuts that securely join the floor and walls. Why cant we build with 2x4? It would make sense in some of the circumstances she describes.If you have the skills & energy, I think your efforts would be much more rewarded & rewarding if you applied them to a handyman stite built home. Balloon framing using dimensional lumber and manufactured nails was so revolutionary that a balloon framed Illinois cottage was displayed at the Paris Exhibition of 1867 as a display of American technological prowess.8Site built stick framing proved to be so fast and so efficient that it dominates residential wood-frame construction worldwide to this day. I am hoping to hang something from the ceiling of my 1997 Fleetwood mobile home. Im a little worried that the glue will not last long and assuming this is how all the ceilings were put together.PaulHi Ashley,I wouldnt worry about it.They build the walls & and ceilings on a large jig that means the assembler just lays the wood in the marked places and nails/screws them together. I would be a little concerned about weight. To keep the posts from rotting it was found that you could support them on stones and from there it was found the posts could be supported on a raised sill frame resting on lots of stones and from there we got rubble foundations. I work on cabins that are built from 1900 to the present which go from full size lumber to mid size to todays standard size. The total difference in cost to build your house with 2x6 exterior construction vs 2x4 is $2,149.90. I have 1994 16 x 70 Commodore I need to do serious repairs on and looking for specs has been futile. It will open a new window and you will have to scroll down to see the article. ChristineIve searched the floor articles and could find no articles on my issue. Complete Mobile Home Codes - 2022. From mud huts and megalithic stones to mega highways and skyscrapers, the evolution of construction reflects mankind's ever . How will they look in the future? 2x4 construction: $3.00 sq/ft- 2x4 construction and use 3" of closed cell foam in the cavity. Some saging of sheetrock ceiling -no cracks. It is fastened at one end and then stretched from the other. I have located where one of the center beams runs and will locate the safe over the beam near the middle of the trailor. The edges of the studs are coated with liquid glue and pre-cut panels, which will become the inside wall of the house, are stapled into place. At the very least, could I remove the existing, ugly ceiling and replace it with the bead board or some other material?VickyPaulCertainly you can replace the existing ceiling tile with something you like better. So the old shingles have to come off. R&D courtesy of the US DOE Building America Program. Good luck. The changes were effective on November 7, 2016. As I was researching this project I ran across a similar study on a 2,350 sq/ft house with similar details and the author came up with a total cost increase of $1,951.56 or $.83 per sq/ft of living space. One of the exterior side walls is lowered into place on a bead of caulk and fastened into place. Your statement has made me rethink my next projectremoving the original tub / shower surround and replacing it with a ready-to-install shower base and fully tiled walls using ceramic subway tiles.My tub runs along the outside wall. OR am I just biting off more than I can chew and should just scrap the whole idea and not even try?PaulIn my (painful) experience it would be a big mistake. If you have any type of blueprint to a trailer that old I would greatly appreciate it.ThanksPaulIm not an engineer, and have never seen any plans that show how such an opening must be supported. Horizontal timber (or log) construction was introduced to North America by the French; as such it is not a distinct New World technology. Holes are drilled through the bottom of the wall and the floor material and metal sleeves hammered into place. Its been well maintained over the years and Ive done some work. The nails allowed us to get rid of complex joinery no more mortise and tenon and allow relatively unskilled folks to nail together mass produced small sticks (2x4s and 2x6s and 2x8s) spaced closely together in a light frame. I would like to install a ribbed metal roof over it on perlings. Cavity insulation not yet installed. The 1950s through 1970s. Do you mind sharing your opinion on installing a barn door on an interior wall of a 1981 Marlette? With the hundreds of nails driven in by the air nailers and the glue set, there will not be any way to change it later. Batts get pulled to the side so boxes can be installed, they come loose, etc. OSB, or oriented strand board (a composite panel similar to plywood) is up a whopping 152%, from $170 a year ago to $428 currently. The humidifier was removed with the old furnace, but is the cause the crawlspace caused ACH (its closed but not airtight to the rest of the house) or is there some other method that humidity is being stripped? Hammer in wedges to force the sagging wall parts upward. I would like to knock out 12 of the outside wall to enlarge the living room. george and the dragon filming locations; when did 2x6 construction start in canada. Even more sophisticated are insulating sheathings that combine not only the functions of a sheathing and housewrap but also provide thermal resistance (really, they are sophisticated even though these products were first introduced in the 1950s). The vinyl is then covered with a protective mat or plastic sheeting. 1939, January 28: Anchorage High School opens at 6th and F Street. The ceiling or wall panels are then set in place.So you end up with a solid bead of glue the entire width of the 2 x 4 that runs from one end to the other.I have heard complaints about what a chore it is to remove all the old glue, but never that the glue joint has failedPaul, LeeDear Paul,Trying to help a friend who has a 1982 Marlette, 1470. Do you know what caused the tear and if the problem has been fixed? Its surface rusting in spots and a couple of the seams are leaking. I have never seen any outside of the factory.Have you taken a pencil to the numbers for the work you plan? If a service technician has to replace it, he has to cut it to fit and probably put down quarter round along all the edges. Boring, but true. Where can I find the H U D code for 1998 code for the attachments? These are much the same as any site-built home. LocationTampa Bay, Florida, USA. How to Convert R-Value to U-Factor in Insulation, How to Enlarge a Window for a Kitchen Remodel, How to Install an Exterior Front Door With a Brick Home, Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Lifestyle, All Rights Reserved. Does water back up anywhere? Once you know that you will be able, Manufactured home manufacturers The manufacturer is responsible for the home itself. Faith YoungHi Paul. I just recently modeled a 2200 sq/ft house with a 2-car garage, lets call it the McCabe Residence, in the energy modeling software REM Design. That risks cracking old ductwork, etc. If a couple of tires go at once and the frame hits the ground, it can be bent, making future leveling impossible. A profession repair would have sealed that damage so mice, bugs, cats, or coons dont have easy access to the subfloor area. Can I remove the flat ceiling and vault the ceiling? So what was the function of the building paper? Alan, Unfortunately there is no reliable way of fixing the date of a building by sizing the wall studs. Can it be cut out?PaulHi Dena,Your question is getting deeper into structural engineering than I am comfortable trying to answer. Historically the English got their oak from the Baltic, but this changed with the settlement of the colonies - New England had a lot more oak than almost anywhere else. You can imagine that an 80 wall made of 2 x 4s butted together has LOTS of flex in it and how straight it becomes depends on the straightness of the floor it is attached to. The weight will be directly over the I beams which is good.I dont know what sort of feet come on pool tables but if you wanted to distribute the weight you might consider putting down some plywood squares under the table. 271. Oh, some of the exterior and interior linings have changed and we did begin to fill the cavities inherent in frame construction, but the fundamental structural system of walls has not changed much over the past 150 years. K. AustinWe are moving into a 76 by 16 single wide mobile home. Insert a straight edge into the gap as far as it will go and note the measurement on the stud framing the door or window. the one overhead is supported by the same at each end of the opening.. it HAD been sagging terribly before he put those beams in.. there is NOT a center beam, and it looks very nice. Im getting a new roof for sure. The second really big thing was the development of machine made nails. Work that took 15 minutes in the factory becomes a two man, two-day job for service. Common characteristics included: 26 walls, stippled ceilings now standard, introduced PVC vinyl double pane windows, improved ventilation systems, skylights and vinyl or wood siding standard, no more metal siding. PaulI have a 2000 Homes of Merit double wide. Home is in excellent condition. When this happens, they are no longer able to seal out the water and will often leak. The cost is minimal compared to the benefits. 2x4 studs are used for interior walls. The wall we want to remove is 46 long, will this still cause a problem and if so what would be the issue. The temptation will be to ship them anyhow. The water control function of building paper seemed to have been introduced in the 1930s and even then it was not widespread. It began with the purely functional need for a controlled environment to moderate the effects of climate. So if you work where you are not on a direct line between a wall switch and a factory installed ceiling fixture you are probably OK.Obviously, I have no way to be certain of that. I have a canopy bed and it will not fit!PaulHi Tammie,No.Mobile home ceilings rely heavily on truss construction that provides maximum support with minimal use of materials. At this point i doubt i ever will, according to Hot2000 if reduced to 7 ACH50, and insulate the attic and basement (i am considering spray foam directly on basement brick if thats safe to do) the heat load will be down to 24250BTU at -20C which is just over 1/3 of what i started with. Were houses insulated in the 1950s? It seems to me the insurance company shouldnt need to know anything else. Any idea why they would have used barnboard then plaster then lath then plaster again and no exterior sheathing? Chris Deziel has a bachelor's degree in physics and a master's degree in humanities. Developed in the late 1970s, OSB is made of rectangular wood strands glued and pressed together. (if you get snow). I have not pursued it seriously, i could spend time at the library going over very old records and maybe find some historians but thats a lot of effort which i don't really want to go through. The framing is solidwalls straight as an arrow. Perhaps test it in one room and watch it for problems? Her roof is leaking. I wanted to put a 7-foot pool table in the living room, which is in the middle of the house (the largest room). The price of nails fell so fast that by the 1850s nails cost less in Chicago than the tax on European nails. In this article, _Two-By Debate Continues_ it says that the payback time for 2x6 walls in Minneapolis (once again a heating climate) would be aprox 78 years.Another publication "A Builder's Guide to Energy Efficient Homes in Georgia, J. Tiller and D. Creech, Governor's Office of Energy Resources, 1990. Compared to the weight of book cases, aquariums, water beds, pianos and other things people move into mobile homes your guests total weight is small.The heaviest point load on the floor will come from the high heels some of your guests will be wearing. Any suggestions for me EdPaulHi Edward,Ill have to admit that when looking at older homes I could never see any significant difference between brands.Water damage is the biggest hidden problem. That means a contractor who does that kind of work has to bid higher. Average U value- I have tried several times in ResCheck and could never get it to pass with 2x4 construction. Become a GBA Prime member and get full access to GBA articles, enyclopedia, videos, CAD library, and more. Conclusion Newer manufactured homes that conform to HUD standards put in place in 1976 will provide a home that is built to weather the test of time. Weve been building with wood for thousands of years. In Old Norse load bearing posts were called stafr which gave rise to the term stave construction. . Here is a link to the HUD standards for mobile home manufacture. Testing. There is a really nice discussion of this on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church). While the roof is being done, others are fastening siding. Answer (1 of 4): If you know how to use a simple measuring stick a.k.a. Is it functional? The wall frames were often infilled with vertical planks along with a whole bunch of other stuff. In the factory at which I worked for a few, I know that. The standards that must be met depend on where the home will be located. That is a simple payback of 52 years. Alan, Saw marks don't photograph well; but the lower part of the photo is clear enough to tell it was cut by a circular saw mill. Will it hold a king sized free flow waterbed in the master suite at the end of the home?PaulIm thinking that if waterbeds fell through the floors of mobile homes it would make the evening newsSo you should be fine.I did see a couple of bedrooms where the waterbed leaked. I am in Alaska, so also intend to put vertical 2 x 4s in the interior walls, and insulate the hell out of this place!! Quite understand. Turn on every light. It is not in good shape, so I am wanting to gut it completely down to its metal shell and studs and remodel the inside completely. Now you have me wondering if the weight of a fully tiled shower stall is comparable to the original tub filled with water? 2x6 walls are bigger than 2x4 walls. Mobile homes are built to handle snow loads and other stresses, so there may be enough strength to do what you plan, especially since what you describe spreads out the load.It may not apply in your case, but many mobile home owners dont realize the walls are supported on outriggers which are not designed to hold extra weight either. Insert a straight edge into the gap as far as it will go and note the measurement on the stud framing the door or window. Homes built prior to 1976 had only one or two inches of insulation wrapped around the walls, floor and ceiling, 2 x 2 or 2 x 3 studs, uninsulated air ducts in the floor and ceiling, no ceiling vapor barrier, and jalousie windows. When building your dream house, there are various opinions on 2x6 construction. are cut and the electrical boxes installed. Very similar! Thank you.PaulHi Faith,I wouldnt worry about it. Thats what a thousand years of evolution will get you. JonaI live in a 1978 double wide, not sure the make and model, I wanted to hang a swing in my sons room and was wondering if there should be studs or something in the ceiling to hang it from or if it would be a good idea, the swing is a cacoon like swing from IKEA. I wonder if the problem will go away when you turn on the furnace? Bring a light bulb with you so you can be sure it is or isnt a failed switch. It is on concrete pillarsPaulIs that feet or inches? It is faster and cheaper to build and it provides a 5.5-inch cavity for insulation rather than a 3.5 inch cavity. As an additive lime turns out to be very desirable a lesson that seems to have been lost in more recent times. I find that difficult because repair people tend to work in a very limited area and there is no way for me to hear about them. So here we go, To determine the cost effectiveness of 2x6 construction. I also want to side the place. So mobile homes sold in much of Florida will have to meet the highest standards of wind resistance. I am intending to use 1x 6 boards for the door, a metal track system from National Hardware, and a required 2x 6 board to attach everything to the wall. Vinyl is put in place and stapled around the edges (no adhesive). When you turn lights on, watch for any flicker.Talk to the neighbors and see if they have any outstanding issues with the park management. Fundamental questions that should be asked as they tell us who we are. But the big unknown is whether it is possible to transfer the restructured onto a block foundation with floor trusses, dropping the metal frame underneath. Ive read on your page that if the wall is in the middle where the two halves are put together then that is not to be removed. Anyone wanting to move one of them has to find/buy/rent them. loriHii have a 1979 1468 mobile home with a metal roof. Virtually all of the homes we build have 2x6 exterior walls, one we are about to start is a 7,000 sq. The use of pre-fabrication goes back over a hundred years. CathyWe have a 92 Palm Harbor double-wide mobile home. So start with 2x 10 exterior walls. Lumber's price remains well above its pre-pandemic range of $350 to $500, however. Setup can raise tough issues because of the number of organizations involved. Many years ago I called the factory where the mobile home was made, but what they sent me really did not show how this house was made.If you can help us get the plane we would appreciate it.Sincerely: TerryPaulI have never known anyone to have any luck getting plans to even new homes. My concern is the wiring. After framing and siding, before wiring and plumbing, build a second wall inside the exterior wall, running parallel. Look around the refrigerator for water damage from the condensation pan overflowing or a problem with the water dispenser connections.Turn on the water to the tub and sink, let it run for a minute or two and then flush the toilet two or three times. Fiberglass batts are R3.5 for every inch, but spray foam . You must be a magazine subscriber to access this feature. In addition to continuous charts, the collection includes thousands of single-contract historical price charts that cover individual contract months from years past.

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